Talking BDSM/Kink educator Patrick Califia, and Darklady of Catalyst: A Sex-Positive Space

We're joined by author and BDSM educator Patrick Califia. Patrick has written numerous books, incluing kink-themed fiction, and much writing on the interpersonal and social politics of sex and kink. Darklady, co-owner of Catalyst: A Sex-Positive Place, a social and educational space for folks exploring kink and BDSM. 

**this is a rebroadcast of an interview conducted in October 2019**

Music on this program:

Suanne Vega w/ Joe Jackson on piano, Left of Center (from the Pretty in Pink soundtrack) 

Shirley Scott & the Soul Saes - You (a rework of a Marvin Gaye track)